Courtright Twist And Academic Freedom

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Unlike with Christianity, Judaism and even Buddhism in North America, there is no more mainstream counterbalance to the more radical approaches taken by scholars to Hinduism. Christians of a more traditional or mainstream inclination have many seminaries and publishing houses to train scholars and publish books. For every...... Expand

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  Narayanan Komerath posted 4 yrs ago

JW, for the sake of what the famous REDIFF Calumnist D.D'Souza called "A Thought Experiment":

Suppose one that statements made in a book led someone say, "A" to believe that they were about to be violently attacked by "B".. the present GOTUS doctrine, at least, recognizes the right of "pre-emptive defense" - for A to commit violence upon B.

Courts may recognize this at least as "reasonable suspicion leading to the belief that A was acting in self-defense" and reduce charges against A to "temporary insanity induced by reading". Not so far-fetched, given that people who beat innocent Indian youths to death in New Jersey some years back got off with "involuntary manslaughter".

Now suppose it were proven that A's belief was driven by statements in the book, which had been made up by the author. And that there are reasonable grounds to believe that these inventions were malcious in intent, not just negligent or reckless.

A criminal court would not touch this case - BUT, in the US at least, I believe that a good civil case for actual and punitive damages can be made by B or their survivors, against the author.

This is the approach taken by, say, the Southern Poverty Law Center folks to stop the hate preachings of the KKK and the Aryan Nations.

If the book in question is written, clearly as part of the "academic" work of someone at a university, (clear as in "he used that as evidence of his scholarship to get reappointed, promoted or tenured) then the university becomes liable as well.

You see, in this environment, if the book is banned, the university has a convenient defense: buying the book was illegal.

Otherwise, the monkey is very much on the author's and his employer's backs. It is VERY MUCH in their interest to have all copies of the book "pulled" - at their expense, and with no fanfare.

THIS is the situation I am aiming for - make it such that these *****s beg and plead to have their books withdrawn.

I don't think its for a perfect world. Its doable right now.

Why not send a gazillion e-mails to people (including the Methodist clergy and all alumni of Emory University, in Courtright's case) with attachments clearly showing: "Why People Are Mad at the Trash Put Out by Emory University"?

The mobs outside Dean Paul's and President Wagner's Ivory Towers may not be "Hindu Extremists". They will be Moderate Modern Methodists.



  Karna posted 4 yrs ago

The issue of banning or not banning is pretty straightforward, as I see it. Banning is fine if the administration is not confident of its law and order apparatus. Where the administration is confident of maintaining law and order, then there is more freedom to not ban a book, movie, or other expression. But this is just one part.

BTW, during the WTO meet in Miami recently, the administration came down with an extremely -- excessively -- heavy hand to prevent ALL protest. Numerous innnocent bystanders in addition to very peaceful protestors were prevented from protesting or standing by, arrested, assaulted, intimidated, detained, fingerprinted, banned, etc. by the police, with a view to preventing a Seattle type of atmosphere from developing. The PATRIOT Act was invoked here -- in this bastion of freedom, dignity, etc. And most importantly, the major news media suppressed most of such information from being disseminated.

Would you call the above banning, censorship, self-censorship, prudence, what?

Another part is, whether or not the sentiments of some section (small or large) of the public is worthy of consideration.

Regarding safety, you cannot, in the US, publish material, either in print or the web, on how to produce weapons of mass destruction without risking being thrown into the slammer. Can we equate such books with books that might incite strong religious passions? Different strokes for different folks. There is no one size fits all. One cannot view the East through the lenses of the West and hope to make any sense.

In a hundred years (or less), the attempt to impose "Western-style democracy" (which is just plain, varnished, neo-Christianity) will be declared defunct.



  JohnnyWalker posted 4 yrs ago

Narayanan, for the sake of clarity, would you argue that there are no grounds for ever banning a book (even if temporary)? It seems to me that the reasons you extend are for a more perfect world - one where there is a greater intellectual equality among people and one in which no ideology seeks to impose itself on others (hook or crook). We find the opposites to be true here - in addition to much illiteracy, many educated people are incapable of even an average level of analytical skills. So they get their facts and their analysis second-hand. The second aspect is more worrisome because people such as the JNU gang would gladly use such 'citation-opportunities' to further their theories and their ideologies. In these days of human rights fundamentalism, entire govts are worried of domestic and international consequences of supressing indigenous scholarship (foreign books are easier to ban). So in other words, the govt by banning such books prevents people such as JNU scholars from using these materials and their authors as freely as they would otherwise. If India were not a hot bed of Left activism, and more people were capable of reading and deciding for themselves, banning would be unnecessary. The danger of mob violence must also recede. I realize that in the absence of these ideal conditions, the questions that usually follow an argument for selective banning are "who decides and when" and "what is the potential for misuse"! These questions would be redundant if there were a national consensus that lays down stringent and fair conditions for a ban but would be flexible enough to ban something if those conditions were met. Thus the Bengal communists would not invite Deepa Mehta while banning Nasreen's book. Similarly, Rushdies book should not be banned if Hussain's paintings on Saraswati and Sita were allowed.



  Narayanan Komerath posted 4 yrs ago

For the record, I am against "banning" either Laine's book or Courtright's book. Let me explain that:

1. The "ban" (in the case of Laine, Rushdie, Tasleema, and the earlier instance of banning "Twelve Hours Till Rama" - if I remember that right from childhood) was always attempt by the Government to protect the lives and property of innocents, by reducing the availability of incendiary material to the easily-inflamed sections of the public. It has never been an expression of the GOI's intent to curtail academic freedom - as much as individual leaders may have expressed their personal disgust at the trash.

So - in my view, these "bans" are immediately abused by the Energizer Bunnies of the "We Are Free To Be Obnoxious Liars" crowds such as the RISA, CHRO etc.

Apart from the clear security need to curtail availability of the book, and perhaps calm down the riots by showing an Official Disapproval of these books, the bans should be "rescinded" as soon as the security situation makes it practical.

2. At that point, the Government should in my opinion fund efforts to widely publicize the "relevant" excerpts from these books, annotated with thorough research behind that, and publish these to demonstrate to the whole world that these "authors" are scumbags, out to make a cheap buck by peddling lies, hatred and pornography (child pornography, even). The people MUST be allowed to read these in peace and privacy, and discuss in the open the exact nature of these so-called "scholars".

The institutions which advertise the "work"of these porn-peddlers should also win wide advertisement of their standards - such as Emory University and Laine's dump have demonstrated.

The whole problem with outfits such as RISA is that they exist like rats in a sewer. No one in their right mind goes into the sewer - and they probably attack any cat that ventures there... but if they have to come out in daylight, its a different proposition. For example, (not to make any rodent associations) I would be very surprised if the so-called "Moderators" of the RISA-L were to come on Sulekha and post their opinions on an unmoderated forum like this, and stay and fight for their points of view. Perhaps they come here disguised in burkhas like the Pakistan Army - but their strenuous defense of Academic Freedom ends at the borders of the closed tribal fiedfoms where they rule the roost.

This is why, even if I have to hold my nose (oops! what pisko-analytical connotation does that carry, I wonder?) while reading their works or typing excerpts here, I DO go to the trouble of typing those exerpts.

People need to see EXACTLY why those of us who have read Courtright or Laine's garbage, consider these to be garbage.

Its so funny to see Laine back-pedalling from "authoritative historical account" to "stories.."

They do all seem to lie so easily - is that something taught in Bigotry School, I wonder, or is it natural talent?



  Ramesh Rao posted 4 yrs ago

Read this review in The Indian Express of Laine's book:


http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=73826

An excerpt:

"
Needless to state, all this only applies if the real intention behind the book was more than what Laine declares. But from even its very title, the book comes through more like an exercise in skullduggery, strongly suggesting the ’other’ possibility!
If ‘research’ is undertaken with the altruistic aim of benefiting humanity, one wonders how the present book can achieve that end. Scholars ought not to forget that institutions supporting them are rooted in their particular indigenous ethos to which they must be accountable, especially when the results are sought to be commercially exploited through book sales?

Ramesh Rao



  Mehta Jihadi posted 4 yrs ago

I am sure this ArundhatiRoy is none other than ManjariV. Silly c*nt.




  Ramesh Rao posted 4 yrs ago

Hi Narayanan,

I am posting below a commentary by Dr. Krishen Kak (IAS retd) that appears regularly in Vigil Online. This commentary is in response to the call by the usual suspects to lift the ban on Laine's book.

Ramesh Rao

"History will judge"

VICHARAMALA no. 41

Jan 21, 2004

Thoughts on issues of current interest [my comments - as an Indian citizen - within square brackets], including instances of some double standards of our public figures, especially in the construction of Indian identity (all those Macaulayan myths, and the hypocrisy that is Nehruvian secularism) - Krishen Kak

[According to The Hindu, Jan 17, 2004, "Activists demand lifting ban on book" and "Scholars protest vandalism". The former is about that Shabnam Hashmi-led/Harsh Mander-promoted "non-structured organisation" called ANHAD demanding the lifting of the Maharashtra Government's ban on James Lane's book on Shivaji because this is "bending backwards to appease the communal and fascist elements" and there is the government's "danger of losing the support of the sane and secular forces of this country" (obviously meaning itself and others like it). The latter is "over a hundred scholars from across the globe", including that eminent historian Romila Thapar, protesting the related BORI vandalism because "a centuries-old tradition in India of social and intellectual tolerance is being destroyed before our very eyes....The world is watching, and history will judge" (and obviously, again, the world is them and history is what they say it should be). On Jan 18, 2004, The Hindu reported "Historians protest ban on book" - SAHMAT joined the chorus with eminent historian Irfan Habib and others stating that "It is quite clear that our cultural heritage is not safe with the fundamentalist forces having a free run in the country. They are being actively encouraged by the ideology that preaches intolerance and has no respect for half-a-millennium-old monuments, contemporary art practices and scholarly pursuits".

Ach, true, very true.

The West Bengal government's ban on Taslima Nasreen's book because it offended some Muslims is not the "appeasement of communal and fascist elements" but is well within the "centuries-old tradition in India of social and intellectual tolerance" and, therefore, needs no protest.

The razing in free India of well over a hundred temples in Kashmir, and the conversion of Hindu sacred places into Muslim shrines even today ("Koshur Samachar", New Delhi, Jan 2004:21) is by "sane and secular forces" and, therefore, needs no protest.

The destruction over more than half a millennium of over 2,000 temples was by an ideology that respects "old monuments" and, therefore, needs no protest.

The genocide - by international legal definition - of the Kashmiri Pandit community in Kashmir is a "contemporary art practice" and, therefore, protest against it is itself to be protested against (V'mala 9).

And the disrespect to and Freudian innuendo over divinities sacred to the majority in our country is "scholarly pursuits" and, therefore, needs no protest. These scholars - and artists - wouldn't dare apply the same manner of interpretation or depiction to, say, the Islamic god and his prophet. But that is their academic freedom, isn't it?

Check out the videoCD "Terror on the Kashmir Minorities....And The World Remained Silent" (available through http://www.francoisgautier.com )

Eric Hoffer describes fanaticism as a "malady of the soul of the world" and identifies it as "a Judaic-Christian invention" ("The True Believer", NY: HarperPerennial, 1989:168).

No, I do not condone the BORI vandalism. But I invite you to read Shylock's speech in The Merchant of Venice,III.i - the one that has "...if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?.....The villainy you teach me, I will execute...".

All through recorded history, which are the ideologies characterised by the fanatic destruction of the others' "national consciousness incarnated in books" (http://www.harvardmag.com/on-line/110388.html )? - the firing of the Alexandria library, the burning of non-Muslim scriptures, the sack of Nalanda university, the incineration of the Aztec and Maya codices, the literary holocaust of 100 million books in Nazi-occupied Europe, the Serbian bombing of the Bosnian national library, and the ransacking of the Baghdad museum are only some examples of biblioclasm from hundreds, if not thousands, of examples of the destruction by these ideologies of the cultural resources of others.

It is to these very ideologies that these scholars and historians belong, or that they consider "secular" (V'mala 20). That these ideologies not only have openly declared their intention to wipe out the world's last major paganism but are actively and successfully engaged in doing so, therefore, needs no protest, because to these scholars and historians it is these ideologies that are "sane".

We pagans, by implication, are "insane".

Whose history, therefore, is to sit in judgement?]



  Ramesh Rao posted 4 yrs ago

Hi Narayanan,

I had sent an email to Prof. Laine expressing sympathy for his concerns about BORI, and what seemed to be a purely politically motivated lumpen-led attack on the Bhandarkar institute and on Laine's book. But as I read Laine's book and his op-ed in the L.A. Times, I wrote him the following:

Dear Prof. Laine,

I read your L.A. Times essay about "unthinkable thoughts". It makes my earlier support for you problematic, and for three reasons: one, that you take this matter to the L.A. Times and so to the majority White/American readers who still consider India, Hinduism, and such matters in simplistic and hegemonistic terms. Two, that you talk of Hindu fundamentalists and Hindu fundamentalism and show therefore your "political" card in these matters; and three, and most importantly, you claim the authority to speculate about others' Gods, demi-gods, and heroes as a fundamental right, and not because you have "proof" to support your speculations. As a psychoanalyst friend wrote to me about Prof. Courtright's "Freudian analysis" of Ganesha, "Psychoanalysts can explain a number of things in an individual's life
but the academics teaching religion and using psychoanalysis without authentic psychoanalytic training are involved merely in 'cross-cultural vandalism'. They do not realize that the images like those of Ganesha are simply Rorschach cards for them upon which they are projecting their own conscious and unconscious fantasies. Expression of such fantasies is perfectly acceptable as academic freedom but they don't add anything to the knowledge base. Besides, sexualizing non-sexual neutral images (and Freud very well knew that there were many such in the world including his own 'cigar') titillates the authors and readers alike. They certainly do not have the same affects and affection attached to the image, which is non-sexual and neutral. Not every dog lover or animal lover must be considered, by even remote innuendoes, as expressing his/her deep-seated bestiality. That kind of logic borders on perversion or a thought disorder".

So, your projection, post-Freud, about Shivaji's parents, childhood, and such other matters are speculations that merely titillates you, and raises suspicions in others, and does not either add to the understanding of Shivaji or the Marathas' love for him. "Explanations" and "speculations", such as yours, cannot be either proved or disproved, and therein lies the danger. It is therefore important that academics and scholars rein in their wild fantasies and urge to study others merely to enhance their own reputations or power. It is not an either/or paradigm that I am proposing, i.e., there is either full freedom to pursue sholarship or there is no freedom. That would be the classic response of ideologues. Surely, you can speculate about Gandhiji in such matters as sexuality because he himself wrote about it and discussed it. Shivaji did not. Shivaji's life history, of three hundred years' vintage, is based on bits and scraps, and your projection therefore is simply both willful (because you yourself say that you were fearful about how readers and reviewers would respond to the last chapter in your book) and mischievous.

This, again, is not at all to justify or rationalize the ransacking of BORI and the attack on Prof. Bahulikar. Your book should have gotten some close reading and some careful dissection that would have shown what such speculation is all about: houses of cards built on suspect theoretical foundations. Unfortunately, such speculation comes at a time when the political and social consciousness in India is fluid, and because Indians are beginning to question seriously the impact of colonialism and feudalism. But I suppose politically inclined "scholars" will milk their "plight" to the fullest extent possible. Your L.A. Times essay is proof of it.

Sincerely,

Ramesh Rao



  ProudHindu92 posted 4 yrs ago

Why is AR calling everyone napunsak?
I think she is a sexually frustrated woman who has never been satisfied in bed.
This has made her bitter towards all the males and she give vent to her sexual frustration by calling everyone napunsak.



  BubbaBean posted 4 yrs ago

Good question. From the ad for Laine's "eau-de-poos" as nk puts it:

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/ReligionTheology/Hinduism/~~/dmlldz11c2EmY2k9MDE5NTE0MTI2MQ==#titledescription

"Shivaji is a well-known hero in western India. He defied Mughal power in the seventeenth century, established an independent kingdom, and had himself crowned in an orthodox Hindu ceremony. The legends of his life have become an epic story that everyone in western India knows, and an important part of the Hindu nationalists' ideology. To read Shivaji's legend today is to find expression of deeply held convictions about what Hinduism means and how it is opposed to Islam.

James Laine traces the origin and development if the Shivaji legend from the earliest sources to the contemporary accounts of the tale. His primary concern is to discover the meaning of Shivaji's life for those who have composed-and those who have read-the legendary accounts of his military victories, his daring escapes, his relationships with saints. In the process, he paints a new and more complex picture of Hindu-Muslim relations from the seventeenth century to the present. He argues that this relationship involved a variety of compromises and strategies, from conflict to accommodation to nuanced collaboration. Neither Muslims nor Hindus formed clearly defined communities, says Laine, and they did not relate to each other as opposed monolithic groups. Different sub-groups, representing a range of religious persuasions, found it in their advantage to accentuate or diminish the importance of Hindu and Muslim identity and the ideologies that supported the construction of such identities. By studying the evolution of the Shivaji legend, Laine demonstrates, we can trace the development of such constructions in both pre-British and post-colonial periods. "
..About the Author(s)
James W. Laine is a Professor of Religious Studies at Macalester College. "


"authoritative" work, isn't it? Perfesser of Religious Studies, not of fiction..

Here is the IANS report on the incident:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/040115/43/2axhn.html

Controversial Shivaji book banned all over India
By Deepshikha Ghosh, Indo-Asian News Service

New Delhi, Jan 15 (IANS)

" ... The trouble is over the last chapter of the book that questions "cracks in the narrative" about Shivaji. For instance, it explores that the king's parents did not live together for much of his life and that his father moved south and had another family.

It sparked rumours that the author had questioned Shivaji's paternity, inflaming Shivaji followers like the Shiv Sena. ... .. Laine's book was published a year ago... the author wrote to Indian newspapers apologizing for offending anyone and taking sole responsibility for the views expressed in the book.

Laine, who has spent much time as a research student in Pune and is a frequent visitor still, had sought to give a MORE AUTHENTIC ACCOUNT of Shivaji's life sans the larger than life legends woven around him.
...
He also questions the identification of Shivaji as a Maharashtrian, a Hindu, and an Indian and believes a lot of mythical legends surround his story.

"How have the processes that came to produce modern Maharashtrian, Hindu, and Indian identities come to colour the accepted biographies of Shivaji?" he asks.

In the book, Laine says in is own quest for legitimisation, Shivaji employed classical, pan-Indian symbols, not regional ones as countless legends make it seem. Also, Shivaji's grandfather Maloji was deeply linked with the Islamic world. .."

Quote from Laine: (is this history, serious or myth?)
http://www.sanskritboy.net/archives/2004/01/08/clarification_on_laines_apology.html

"He added that his critics had misunderstood and misrepresented the book, which is not a history of Shivaji but a study of how the stories and myths surrounding him were constructed and became "real." "

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