Courtright Twist And Academic Freedom

Dec 20 2003  | Views 14207 |  Comments  (293)
Unlike with Christianity, Judaism and even Buddhism in North America, there is no more mainstream counterbalance to the more radical approaches taken by scholars to Hinduism. Christians of a more traditional or mainstream inclination have many seminaries and publishing houses to train scholars and publish books. For every...... Expand

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  vaidix posted 4 yrs ago

The Courtright twists also seems to be the result of misplaced cultural biases.

Indian poets have an excessive obsession with lotus. They compare every part of body with lotus: mukha kamalam, kara kamalam, pada kamalam etc, so much so, I some times get sick of it.

Westerners likewise have their own obsessions and biases: e.g., to see phallus in place of nose. The nose beam is the penis, and the two nostrils are testicles. But this kind of comparison is not to be found in any other culture. If this is a universal psychological feature, we should have definitely seen in at least one Indic work out of an ocean of such literature in sanskrit and other dozens of languages. There is hardly any evidence for such link, except probably some modern literature written post-Freud under western influence.

Hmm. why not let me start a new obsession?

I see that a folded elbow actually looks like a female sex organ! Wow, what a discovery! So now go back to any male or female peson or devi or devata with a folded elbow and trying to reach up for an object, or virgin Mary holding baby Jesus, you can start getting ideas.

If you look at the folded knee, it is a much bigger sex organ than the folded elbow! Let your imaginations go wild...

Then comes the usual piece of junk research I recently read in TI

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-435792,curpg-1.cms

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-435792,curpg-2.cms

"The pendulous shape and cleavage of the breasts mimic the previous attractiveness of the female buttocks," Mike was quoted as saying, by the magazine.

I fail to see a connection between breasts and buttocks here!

Going by this logic, I can even claim existence of toe cleavage! When you touch somebody's feet in reverence, it can be interpreted as enjoying the sight of eight toe cleavages on either feet.

People should learn to see things outside of their narrow cultural boundary otherwise they will be writing a COBOL code for a java compiler.

Bhadraiah



  vaidix posted 4 yrs ago


>But the irony is they take money from the 'capitalists' for their plane tickets >and their lodging, condemn the movement of jobs to India

Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin. It is the chicken or egg question. The only sensible answer to this question is that the cycle (of an egg turning into chicken which in turn lays eggs) alone exists as a reality. The progress of middle classes and democracies in the west is due to management, a new phenomenon of last 100 years; but it is an eyesore for both capitalists and communists alike.

When communists shout 'Workers of world unite' you expect they will take care of all workers. But they only worry about those who matter for them. A Russian friend told me the fall of USSR was due to educated masses who got fed up with the system.

When capitalists shout 'We have to protect our jobs' they are not sincere either. If IT workers in a capitalist country can earn $70/hr, it is only because millions of their own children can't afford to go to college. If every child in developed west can go to college atleast comparable to India, the hourly rates will come down dropping to mid $20s.

When academics refuse to see the hard realities, but instead sit in ivory towers and brain storm ways to coverup the reality and achieve their ends, we can expect many more Courtright twists because after all it is their full time job.

Bhadraiah



  vaidix posted 4 yrs ago


Please also note that Communists banned Talisma's book a few months ago in West Bengal under Islamic pressure. But they have different morals to preach when it comes to Courtright or Laine.

Please also note that UK has a newly enacted plasphemy law. Is it only to be used when there is blasphemy against Islam and Christianity? Why not use it when Hindus feel offended?

I am not asking any ban, just asking why a law can't be used in all circumstances equally?

Then there is the escape route I read in dharma-FOIL dialog board: "There is no one Left with a capital L, it is a wide spectrum of thinkers from one end to another". Why can't this argument be reversed? Is there only one Right with a capital R?

Bhadraiah



  JohnnyWalker posted 4 yrs ago

"Also, in piskanalyzing the above post, it appears that the Commies are NOT happy about the availability of Internet Petitions to common people,"

Then they have dog and pony shows like the WSF in Mumbai where they condemned everything on earth like Dasgupta has pointed out in Pioneer - Bush, India, Gujarat, everything! But the irony is they take money from the 'capitalists' for their plane tickets and their lodging, condemn the movement of jobs to India (a poorer country whose causes they otherwise claim to espouse!), speak against globalization which brought them together in the first place, etc etc. The contradictions are all over the place!



  BubbaBean posted 4 yrs ago

From the filthy rude coward postor:

"Who is this clown who calls himself Vaidix?
Vaidixji, perhaps you are not aware, that "online petitioning" is the latest fad, thanks to internet browser and a remote server. But, this "online petitions" everyone is talking about, is a very UNREPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE of Representatives. Perhaps, you need a lesson in statistical sampling? That said, Vaidixji, continue your comedy show, with the rest of the exemplary cast. "
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I guess this is how the FOIL greet each other. When someone walks down the street where they are all hanging out sharing their joints and condoms and booze bottles, strumming their "guitars" and "awaiting the Revolution", they may say: "Who is this clown coming down the street, yaar? Perhaps you need a lesson in (whatever the FOIL is clueless about, which is just about all of Creation)?"

This takes the place of "Namaste" or "Shalom" of "Asalaam u Aleikum" or "Hyaw y'all doin?" for the rest of us.

Its the general tone that impresses me so much. The sheer skunk odor. The abysmal rudeness. The absolute dishonesty. All to cover for the inferiority complex justifiably felt by the commies because of their total incompetence and uselessness for anything other than using up Oxygen and contributing to Global Warming. And most of all, the sheer cowardice behind the malice.

Also, in piskanalyzing the above post, it appears that the Commies are NOT happy about the availability of Internet Petitions to common people, and are extremely sensitive about the suggestion from Vaidix. Way to go, Vaidixji, you have clearly hit upon a good idea. How do I know? Well, don't the filthy cowards attack it ? Q.E.D.



  vaidix posted 4 yrs ago

Arundhati Roy

Try to learn dignity of labor. Use of the word clown is not derogatory in the first place. To be really derogatory, you may want to try some 4 or 5 letter words and get kicked out like ManjariV.

We are living in the Platonian world of pressure groups, and it is perfectly OK for a group of people to fight for a cause, and any effort doesn't have to be representative of a whole population. The modern society runs by a balance of such pressure groups supporting contradictory views.

The ancient world (e.g., dharma) used to run by each individual balancing such contradictory ideas within oneself. This is out of fasion now.

What I am saying is, people should put up a petition to request US to lift the ban on books. If they can't, then they should understand that Courtright's book is offensive to another section of the world, like certain books are offensive to US.

Try to get into India with a map showing Kashmir as part of Pakistan. Or publish a book in US containing a map dated 2004, showing California as part of Mexico; it is sure to get banned. There are limits to what a society can take.

Bhadraiah



  ArundhathiRoy posted 4 yrs ago

Who is this clown who calls himself Vaidix?

Vaidixji, perhaps you are not aware, that "online petitioning" is the latest fad, thanks to internet browser and a remote server. But, this "online petitions" everyone is talking about, is a very UNREPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE of Representatives. Perhaps, you need a lesson in statistical sampling? That said, Vaidixji, continue your comedy show, with the rest of the exemplary cast.



  vaidix posted 4 yrs ago

Friends,

Why not somebody start a petition to peacefully protest US ban on books?

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/banned-books.html

This should be an eye opener to the whole world.

Regards
Bhadraiah



  maruti posted 4 yrs ago

“History will judge”
Author:
Publication: www.vigilonline.com
Date: January 21, 2004
URL: www.vigilonline.com

Thoughts on issues of current interest [my comments - as an Indian citizen - within square brackets], including instances of some double standards of our public figures, especially in the construction of Indian identity (all those Macaulayan myths, and the hypocrisy that is Nehruvian secularism) - Krishen Kak

[According to The Hindu, Jan 17, 2004, "Activists demand lifting ban on book" and "Scholars protest vandalism". The former is about that Shabnam Hashmi-led/Harsh Mander-promoted "non-structured organisation" called ANHAD demanding the lifting of the Maharashtra Government's ban on James Lane's book on Shivaji because this is "bending backwards to appease the communal and fascist elements" and there is the government's "danger of losing the support of the sane and secular forces of this country" (obviously meaning itself and others like it). The latter is "over a hundred scholars from across the globe", including that eminent historian Romila Thapar, protesting the related BORI vandalism because "a centuries-old tradition in India of social and intellectual tolerance is being destroyed before our very eyes....The world is watching, and history will judge" (and obviously, again, the world is them and history is what they say it should be). On Jan 18, 2004, The Hindu reported "Historians protest ban on book" - SAHMAT joined the chorus with eminent historian Irfan Habib and others stating that "It is quite clear that our cultural heritage is not safe with the fundamentalist forces having a free run in the country. They are being actively encouraged by the ideology that preaches intolerance and has no respect for half-a-millennium-old monuments, contemporary art practices and scholarly pursuits".

Ach, true, very true.

The West Bengal government's ban on Taslima Nasreen's book because it offended some Muslims is not the "appeasement of communal and fascist elements" but is well within the "centuries-old tradition in India of social and intellectual tolerance" and, therefore, needs no protest.
The razing in free India of well over a hundred temples in Kashmir, and the conversion of Hindu sacred places into Muslim shrines even today ("Koshur Samachar", New Delhi, Jan 2004:21) is by "sane and secular forces" and, therefore, needs no protest.

The destruction over more than half a millennium of over 2,000 temples was by an ideology that respects "old monuments" and, therefore, needs no protest.

The genocide - by international legal definition - of the Kashmiri Pandit community in Kashmir is a "contemporary art practice" and, therefore, protest against it is itself to be protested against (V'mala 9).
And the disrespect to and Freudian innuendo over divinities sacred to the majority in our country is "scholarly pursuits" and, therefore, needs no protest. These scholars - and artists - wouldn't dare apply the same manner of interpretation or depiction to, say, the Islamic god and his prophet. But that is their academic freedom, isn't it?
Check out the videoCD "Terror on the Kashmir Minorities....And The World Remained Silent" (available through http://www.francoisgautier.com )

Eric Hoffer describes fanaticism as a "malady of the soul of the world" and identifies it as "a Judaic-Christian invention" ("The True Believer", NY: HarperPerennial, 1989:168).

No, I do not condone the BORI vandalism. But I invite you to read Shylock's speech in The Merchant of Venice,III.i - the one that has "...if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?.....The villainy you teach me, I will execute...".

All through recorded history, which are the ideologies characterised by the fanatic destruction of the others' "national consciousness incarnated in books" (http://www.harvardmag.com/on-line/110388.html )? - the firing of the Alexandria library, the burning of non-Muslim scriptures, the sack of Nalanda university, the incineration of the Aztec and Maya codices, the literary holocaust of 100 million books in Nazi-occupied Europe, the Serbian bombing of the Bosnian national library, and the ransacking of the Baghdad museum are only some examples of biblioclasm from hundreds, if not thousands, of examples of the destruction by these ideologies of the cultural resources of others.
It is to these very ideologies that these scholars and historians belong, or that they consider "secular" (V'mala 20). That these ideologies not only have openly declared their intention to wipe out the world's last major paganism but are actively and successfully engaged in doing so, therefore, needs no protest, because to these scholars and historians it is these ideologies that are "sane".


We pagans, by implication, are "insane".

Whose history, therefore, is to sit in judgement?]

http://www.hvk.org/articles/0104/144.html



  maruti posted 4 yrs ago

Marxist Historians protest ban on book
By Our Special Correspondent

NEW DELHI, JAN. 17. Historians today joined the chorus of protests within the academic community against the vandalism at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) in Pune earlier this month.

In a statement issued here under the banner of the Safdar Hashmi Memorial Trust (SAHMAT), they described the Maharashtra Government's ban on the American Indologist, James Laine's book as ``totally unwarranted''.

Condemning the vandalism at BORI and the attack on the Sanskrit scholar, Srikant Bahulkar, the historians said: ``It is quite clear that our cultural heritage is not safe with the fundamentalist forces having a free run in the country. They are being actively encouraged by the ideology that preaches intolerance and has no respect for half-a-millennium-old monuments, contemporary art practices and scholarly pursuits.''

They said the ban ``only provides moral justification to the vandals''. Instead, the Maharashtra Government should move for punishing the guilty, they demanded. The historians who have put their signatures to the statement include R.S. Sharma, R.C. Thakran, Suraj Bhan, Irfan Habib, D.N. Jha, Shireen Moosvi and K. M. Shrimali.

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/18/stories/2004011802911000.htm





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